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IS A TIBETN MASTIFF A GOOD FIT FOR YOU?
BE WARY OF BREEDERS BREEDING ONE YEAR OLD UNTESTED DOGS!
IT IS HIGHLY UNETHICAL AND A SIGN OF A PUPPY MILL!
AND CERTAINLY DO NOT PAY $1700.00 - $6000.00 FOR A PUPPY BEFOR YOU RESEARCH THE PEDIGREES! SOME PEOPLE WILL POST A LOWER PRICE AND THEN ASK FOR MORE. BE VERY CAREFUL. THEY USE "RARE" IN THEIR ADS BUT THIS IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH. JUST GO TO PUPPYFIND AND YOU WILL FIND PAGES AND PAGES OF TIBETAN MASTIFFS FOR SALE. JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY ARE SPECIAL DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE. CAFEFULLY CHECK THE PEDIGREES AND YOU WILL MOST LIKELY FIND THEY ARE SELLING LONG TIME BREEDERS LIKE KESANG CAMP'S LINES FOR MORE MONEY. KESANG CAMP KEEPS HIS PICKS FOR BREEDING AND YOU CAN GET A BETTER DOG DIRECTLY FROM THEM FOR LESS MONEY.
DON'T BE FOOLED BY WHAT I REFER TO AS AKC CORPORATE PUPPY MILL "MARKETING" SCAMS.
BE SURE TO ASK TO SEE THE PEDIGREE OF BOTH THE SIRE AND THE DAM.
GRANDPARENTS SHOULD LIST THE KENNEL NAME OF BREEDER
(i.e KESANG CAMP MAXIMUS AND KESANG CAMP BELLA RUE) IF THE NAME OF THE
DAM IN THIS INSTANCE DOES NOT LIST KESANG CAMP IN FRONT OF NAME;
THIS IS A SIGN THAT THE BREEDER HAS MISLEAD THE BUYER INTO
THINKING THEY WERE THE BREEDER OF THE DAM. THIS ALSO IS
HIGHLY UNETHICAL IN MY OPINION AND A SIGN OF DECEPTION.
I WOULD STEER CLEAR OF BREEDERS LIKE THIS.
SOME AKC BREDERS ARE TEAMING UP AND CO-OWNING "LITTERS" WITH NEW COMERS TO THE BREED. BASED ON MY DIRECT EXPERIENCES OWNING SOME OF THOSE LINES; I WOULD NEVER OWN ONE AGAIN. I COULD NEVER IN GOOD CONSCIENCE RECOMMEND ANY AKC BREEDER CHARGING $3000.00 TO S6000.00 FOR A PUPPY. BASED ON MY DIRECT EXPERIENCES I CALL THEM "CORPORATE PUPPY MILLS". CHARGING THESE OUTRAGIOUS FEE INDICATES TO ME THAT MONEY IS THE MAIN FOCUS. ASK TO SEE THE PEDIGREES. MANY OF THEIR PEDIGREES ARE THE SAME AS THOSE SMALL NON AKC BREEDERS AND GENERALLY NOT QUITE AS NICE BECAUSE THEY USUALLY GET A FREE PUPPY THAT EITHER THE BIG AKC BREEDER HAS USED AND IS NO LONGER IN NEED OF. MOST BREEDERS KEEP THEIR BEST. THE BIG AKC THEN TAKES THE PICKS, USUALLY CONSISTING OF OTHER BREEDERS LINES IN WHAT I FEEL IS AN UNETHICAL MANNER. I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN WITH KESANG CAMP DOGS. SOME NEW BREEDERS ARE ACTUALLY CHANGING THE NAMES OF THE DOG TO HIDE THE ORIGINAL BREEDER'S NAME; TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR A DOG THEY DID NOT BREED. WOULD YOU ACTUALLY TRUST SOMEBODY WHO WOULD DO THIS? MANY OF THE AKC BREEDERS CHARGE THESE OUTRAGEOUS FEES IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THEIR SHOW AND HANDLER FEES. BE WARY OF A BREEDER WHO "MAKES HIS LIVING" SELLING MULTIPLE BREEDS AND "HIGH VOLUMES". AKC CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE BOUGHT, NOT WON, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES. JUST "FOLLOW THE MONEY". DON'T BE DUPED LIKE I WAS! FINALLY BE SURE TO SEE THE HIP AND ELBOW RESULTS. SOMETIMES THESE BREEDERS ONLY DO ONE OR THE OTHER. WHY? YOU MIGHT ASK? PROBABLY BECAUSE THE VET ADVISED THEM NOT TO SEND IT IN BECAUSE IT DIDN'T LOOK GOOD. WHEN BREEDERS ARE CHARGING THOSE OUTRAGEOUS PRICES FOR THEIR DOGS; YOU WOULD THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE AN EXTRA 50-100 DOLLARS TO SPEND ON BOTH HIP AND ELBOWS!
Some lines are instinctively more aggressive than others and that is why it is very important to talk to your breeder about temperament. Just like health; you can have two healthy parents with great dispositions and not all the pups will turn out just like the parents. Just like humans; some things cannot be explained or predicted, however, the goal is to reduce the chances of that happening by using healthy and stable parents. It is very important that your new puppy is SOCIALIZED. This is probably the number one most importmant thing you MUST do with your new puppy. Please be sure you will have the time to spend to socialize your Tibetan Mastiff Puppy. Tibetan Mastiffs are not like labs or other common breed types. They are highly intelligent, stubborn, and guardy. Tibetan Mastiffs can be wonderful family pets if properly SOCIALIZED from the day you get them. The Tibetan Mastiff was bred to be a guardian and they are very loyal to their owners and property. This is why socialization is key. Based on our experience a Tibetan Mastiff well socialized off property is less of a liability. Our experience has shown us that a Tibetan Mastiff is far more "social" off property if properly socialized from the beginning. It is not uncommon to have to 'introduce" visitors who come to your home. This is to be expected of your Tibetan Mastiff. Bringing strangers into the home or yard without introduction can be problematic and is not recommended at any time. Once properly socialized and your Tibetan Mastiff has been introduced; all is well. Remember, this is what a Tibetan Mastiff was bred to do. It takes it's job and family very seriously and you have to be willing to dedicate your time into the socialization necessary in raising a Tibetan Mastiff. Training a Tibetan Mastiff requires a firm owner with a gentle, loving hand. Excessive force is never recommended.
Some breeders are charging a significant amount more than others. Why? Not sure? Check the pedigrees. They are pretty much the same as other breeders. The Tibetan Mastiff used to be a rare breed but as more and more people are breeding the prices have come down significantly. I learned the hard way. Paying more does not mean you are getting a better dog; maybe just a lot of 'talk".
Contract will state that puppy and it's offspring MAY NOT BE REGISTERED AKC. They will be registered UKC. Each puppy will be sold as a pet with the option to purchase full ownership after owner health tests pup at appropriate age and they have passed. Both parents have been tested and have good hips and elbows; it is not possible to predict the environment or genes that may be passed on. This option saves the owner money upfront and allows them to make a decision later on. We will recommend that each puppy be given the proper nutrition, and care which includes keeping them off slippery surfaces, climbing too many stairs, and excessive walks at a young age.
Similar pedigrees of AKC breeders. Same health checks (passed the first time), Based on the hypocrisy I have personally witnessed ; I would never want another dog from some of the AKC breeders I know. When there is a ton of money riding on a show dog; who knows? Check out my experience here. Based on the politics of the show ring; I have come to the conclusion that AKC dogs shows are not about the dogs but more about the money. Click here. And Here. Are you getting a better dog because it is AKC registered? I do not believe so. I do not believe anything they say based on my experiences with them. One other thing to remember is that even though the parents may be "awesome"; not all the puppies will be just like them and most breeders keep the best ones for themselves.
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Our family suffered a great deal from our experience with AKC breeders. The lines are the same. They got Kesang Camp's lines in what I consider to be a "back door" manner; only to bash them after doing so. Why behave this way and then use a line if they do not like it? Remember; follow the AKC money trail! Trust me; they will be very, very, nice to you but do not fall for their "deception" or you might just have to endure what we went through. Click Here. They will befriend new owners of lines they want in order to get somebody else's line without going to them directly. They never want to give any body other than themselves credit and this is the type of person I have learned to avoid. They will tell you lies about others whom they view as threats to their "dog businesses". Some of the things are truly unbelievable. I find many of them to be elitist, argumentative, self righteous, and a grossly undemocratic. I by no means know everything; but I do know you have to treat people and animals with respect and should not "knowingly take advantage of them:". If you have to hurt people to get ahead; is what you have really worth it?
SOME OF OUR DOGS BELOW:ALL HEALTH TESTS BASED ON FIRST TIME SUBMITTAL.
HOSS' PONDEROSA BONANZA OFA GOOD/NORMAL - RESULTS
KESANG CAMP'S NUBIA
OFA GOOD / NORMAL - RESULTS
OFA GOOD / NORMAL - RESULTS
KESANG CAMP'S TIKA
OFA GOOD / NORMAL - RESULTS